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Post by GUMPY on Feb 17, 2024 16:37:01 GMT
So how did the original tank get damaged? Or was it built badly?
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Post by JohnV on Feb 17, 2024 19:40:29 GMT
So how did the original tank get damaged? Or was it built badly? It was very noticeable that the way the original tank was packed and delivered was very different from the way the replacement was packed and delivered. The original tank was considerably reduced by the retailer (almost £100), the speed at which they wanted the problem passed to the manufacturer, the rudimentary packaging The fact that the tank was apparently an unusual style and size and needed to be specially manufactured. Plus the change of attitude by the Manufacturer at the serial number and the name of the vendor One can't help but be suspicious and wonder if there is a back story. Kingspan didn't require any inspection of the tank to check for damage/incorrect installation or a return for inspection before a replacement was sent etc etc etc. and they leant over backwards to ensure I got the replacement as fast as possible and were quite happy to manufacture to the size that was going to make it as easy as possible for me to install I have a sneaky feeling that they also had suspicions but didn't want to comment |
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Post by JohnV on Feb 20, 2024 10:01:58 GMT
Well back into demolition mode yesterday and today The original shower and bathroom needed removing (as I have a nice new working shower  Yesterday removed the temporary hot water system and managed to remove most of the original plumbing Fortunately without spilling a lot of water into the bilge (maybe a cupfull but I can cope with that) We always say that my father was a Victorian at heart, anything he built was constructed to last forever. My sister reckons that I take after him in that respect and judging by how long and hard it was removing the shower ...... I think she might have a point  That part of the fitting out was done 25 years ago .... and I never expected to remove it ..... and it bloody shows ! some bits of the frame are glued and screwed and resort to Big 'ammer was needed !!! all insulation in that area is rockwool so working in overalls and mask ..... Joy I'm going to have to put my hand in my pocket and get a skip in, I'm running out of room on the deck to pile the crap !!! |
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Post by JohnV on Feb 20, 2024 13:44:51 GMT
Well demolition went quite well although some bits were tricky as I had glued and screwed some of the framework (sigh)  100_0109 by mudlarker2, on Flickr anyway panels unscrewed and all sections of framing not needed removed Now a real bomb site !!! This afternoons ob has got to be tidy and vacuum up and try and find a way to stack the ply neatly |
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Post by pattyann57 on Feb 22, 2024 10:40:52 GMT
Good to see work in progress.
My chimney gone from roof by the 'Chuckle brothers'.... I did a runner rather than be witness to complete complacency on Elf n Safety regs.
Hoping finished look is watertight.
I do see these vans everywhere and he has many pics on FB so I'm hoping its just his age n 'old school technique" I saw.
Very difficult to find tradesmen.
Just ordered another dehumidifier as rooms upstairs r a real soggy mess.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 6, 2024 14:31:48 GMT
Well time for an update Things are still progressing but very slowly Finished the framing for the rest of the walls of the new bathroom after demolishing the old shower and clad it in ply (not good stuff just the bits of 9mm salvaged from the strip out They don't have to be pretty as it is all being clad in the waterproof paneling Removed the hand basin from original bathroom and re-installed it in it's new position (the white splashback was there while I decided what to do .... it's not going to be that it will be the same panelling as the rest of the room  100_0112 by mudlarker2, on Flickr Been making the window frame and surround for the last (believe it or not ) three days !!! It looks fairly basic but it was a buxxer to do It's actually made of 13 separate parts and it had to be glued into place on the steel with a rather slow drying glue It takes about 6 hours to get reasonably solid and 24 hours to cure properly but it will stick UPVC to steel/wood/insulation and as it is not possible to screw it to the hull I needed to be sure it would actually stay there Unfortunately it meant glue and clamp a couple of bits then go away for most of the day before doing the next bits. I needed to be particular here because of the condensation you always get in a bathroom Fan or no Fan !!!  100_0110 by mudlarker2, on Flickr |
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Post by JohnV on Mar 12, 2024 10:45:10 GMT
Another short update Still progressing slowly, walls done (except for little corner pieces around the windows) I have decided that the door will be a sliding one hung on the corridor side of the frame So the frame is done as well. That is still to be removed from it's original position. As an interim measure I am just putting Shapfell's portapotti in there as the macerator loo is about 20 years old now so needs to be thoroughly overhauled and checked out before re-fitting. I have worked out that if I use all the offcuts from the wall panels I will have almost enough to do the deckhead (Reversed so they are plain white) I have a pack of panels over at the moment and will only need one bit from the pack to finish the deckhead that will still leave me spares in case of damage later. The low headroom outside the door and the cables hanging is because there is no ceiling there at the moment and all the insulation etc is sagging down the actual level is the silver trunking at the top   100_0115 by mudlarker2, on Flickr Photo taken standing inside the shower !!! |
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Post by pattyann57 on Mar 13, 2024 9:31:11 GMT
Looking good ...
I am about to start on tackling next load of damp.. rip out of under stairs.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 22, 2024 11:21:51 GMT
Well I tried the off cuts from the wall panels on the ceiling , reversed so they were white .... and it looked wrong. Changed them round so that they were the same as the walls and that looked much better. Now done and the lights fitted (and one of the awkward corners completed)  100_0126 by mudlarker, on Flickr |
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Post by JohnV on Apr 4, 2024 7:24:44 GMT
Going to have another go at a post this morning ... was doing it last night and the internet swallowed it !!!
Been doing a job I have kept avoiding
The last job in the long running bathroom replacement saga was moving the loo
It has been in constant use for the last 20 years or so and apart from an incident many years ago when my wife
dropped a perfume sample bottle into it and then flushed it, damaging the impeller it has not been touched.
To make the job somewhat less .... obnoxious I flushed a lot of disinfectant and water through the system
I then blocked the air vent on the tank and pumped it out, causing a vacuum so it emptied the 16 foot of pipework
The removal was thus dry and not too smelly, the lime scale in the works of the loo was really thick
the output pipe was reduced to less than half its original diameter.
I was worried when I found that the rubber moulded pipe between the pan and the pump had surface cracking.
I wondered if there would be a problem getting parts (the loo is a Tecma made in Italy)
As it turns out it's not a problem as it seems it was also imported with a Thetford badge and bits are available
The inside of the macerator was badly scaled and the blades worn but I found that a replacement face plate complete with blades and
a new non return valve was only £20 .... Two days of soaking the pan in descaler and plenty of scrubbing (thank you Marigolds)
and it looks like new again the bits so far cost under £100 which is a big saving on the cost of a new one (£990.95)
Hopefully when the new bits appear it will all work ok (even if it doesn't the cost of all the remaining working parts is £200)
still a bonus
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Post by JohnV on Apr 8, 2024 9:59:03 GMT
Well, the bits to re-build the toilet arrived ..... unfortunately it was mean't to be on Friday but they notified me that it was running late and delivery would be Monday ..... The company that takes in my parcels is shut Saturday and Sunday so that was fine. They delivered on Saturday to the firm next door to the address I used (fortunately the second firm had offered to take in parcels if I needed) but unfortunately they are new to the address and didn't recognise my surname and just thought it was for the firm next door. I wasn't aware that it had been delivered until an hour or so later and the firm had closed for the weekend by then ....hummmfff. Still I wasn't expecting it until today so I shouldn't grumble. Anyway I started on another job .... half of the corridor had been partly demolished so I could get to the old pipework from the loo to the black tank. When I had built the cabinet and bookshelves I thought I had left enough room for access ..... but I hadn't  It had been in the back of my mind that I would probably have to do some work in the corridor to improve the insulation and tidy it up. All the floor needed lifting to vacuum and paint the bilges and some battens installed. To keep some ballast (moved to make final adjustments to the list) from resting directly on the hull plating So over the weekend I stripped back the first bay in the corridor (about 2/3 of the length) back to the original 2" of rockwool. I decided that rather than remove the rockwool, I would just add 2" of insulation board (with additional battens) and then foil bubble wrap vapour barrier. Surprisingly I had enough 2" board, foil wrap and foil tape to do the section without having to go and get any more (which in view of the high winds was probably a dodgy idea I would probably have done a Mary Poppins and ended up in Bridlington) Quite pleased to have got it done AND half of the corridor bilges vacuumed, scraped brushed and primered, Not a bad weekend. Achy this morning so will have a light(ish) day The bits for the loo have arrived and I am now working out the 3D jigsaw puzzle of the pipework. The new bits are slightly different from the originals (mostly you can see where they have changed over the years to avoid some of the problems on the original) Mostly it's fairly obvious but they have reversed the routes of part of it and it's a real sardine can job The thing that stops desperation setting in is the fact that I KNOW the porcelain, the motor, and the pump housing is identical. so it HAS to fit somehow  Fortunately there is plenty of drink onboard .... I think I will need it  |
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Post by phil78 on Apr 20, 2024 22:18:49 GMT
Reading your issue with scale reminded me of an issue that I had on our Broads cruiser , the pipework for the flush on the macerator had got blocked.
The pipe was corrugated and had scaled up leaving a hole no bigger than a pencil. Of course I should have hanged it for smooth bore but as the boat was due to go on sale I took the easy option and just beat the crap out of the pipe which broke up the scale and allowed the final descaler application to finish the job off .
I did the right thing and told the buyer to clean the pipe as part of an annual service, it was only a couple of hours so no biggy
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Post by JohnV on Apr 21, 2024 9:00:55 GMT
Reading your issue with scale reminded me of an issue that I had on our Broads cruiser , the pipework for the flush on the macerator had got blocked. The pipe was corrugated and had scaled up leaving a hole no bigger than a pencil. Of course I should have hanged it for smooth bore but as the boat was due to go on sale I took the easy option and just beat the crap out of the pipe which broke up the scale and allowed the final descaler application to finish the job off . I did the right thing and told the buyer to clean the pipe as part of an annual service, it was only a couple of hours so no biggy I should probably transfer the bit I posted on the "sun in the sky" thread concerning my toilet disasters will do that if I can work out how to .... or write a precis here later. |
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Post by dogless on Apr 22, 2024 18:49:31 GMT
Save yourself a headache JohnV ... there's not that much new stuff here that it would get lost 😁 My guess is those who visit will have already read it. Rog |
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Post by JohnV on Apr 26, 2024 10:49:28 GMT
Well been plodding on but the last couple of days have had someone working for me and it has sprinted forward. I needed all the ballast under what will become the bedroom moved. I had already shifted some to start ballasting the boat level. however I had been spending too much time on my knees the last few months and have problems with one. Had a chap from a boat on the mooring do it for me .... I reckoned it would take a day and a half to paint out the empty bays (with a quick drying anti rust chemical. move the ballast to one side paint out the vacated bays then re pack all the ballast neatly to get her correctly levelled. About 2 ton to move (some of it twice) about half of it is rough pigs which are awkward to fit into the bays neatly. All of it on fresh battens to allow a space beneath. ...... he finished it on day one, and the bits fitted like a 3D jigsaw. The second day laid scrap ply down as a working floor and restacked all the rest of the wood against the wall with the bathroom. dust sheeted the room removed the insulation and scraped and prepared the deckhead for painting then removed the panels from the forward bulkhead and the vapour barrier to inspect the insulation All good (apart from one tiny area where we found a pin hole in the steelwork which needs a little weld). Hopefully get him for another day over the weekend ...... when I've thought out enough jobs to keep him busy for a full day |
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