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Post by jim on Mar 8, 2023 17:31:12 GMT
Drink up, there's Red Port Left in the Bottle.
Going UPstream, if on a river, Red/Port is on the left.
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Post by greenman on Mar 8, 2023 19:11:34 GMT
Drink up, there's Red Port Left in the Bottle. Going UPstream, if on a river, Red/Port is on the left. Found the simplest way to teach newbie was shortest and longest: Shortest-Red, Left, Port Longest-Green, Right , Starboard |
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Post by MetalWoman on Mar 8, 2023 21:52:13 GMT
POSH
dahlings
One just KNOWS, you know x
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Post by greenman on Mar 8, 2023 21:59:23 GMT
POSH dahlings One just KNOWS, you know x I'd tug my forelock if I had any hair. |
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Post by jim on Mar 9, 2023 8:38:03 GMT
POSH dahlings One just KNOWS, you know x Thankyou Ma'am. |
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Post by JohnV on Mar 11, 2023 7:47:34 GMT
Drink up, there's Red Port Left in the Bottle. Going UPstream, if on a river, Red/Port is on the left. Beware the Swale !!! .... it changes halfway !!! |
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Post by dogless on Mar 11, 2023 8:54:16 GMT
I've always been fascinated by these nautical terms, however when I first began canal boating I read and was told that they were never used on the canals. The towpath was the main frame of reference, so offside and nearside, or in and out were the usual identifiers.
However I have noticed that the new vloggers all seem to routinely use port and starboard (along with duck hatch) which I guess is why their use seems to be increasing.
Does anyone know ?
Rog
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2023 9:13:51 GMT
Drink up, there's Red Port Left in the Bottle. Going UPstream, if on a river, Red/Port is on the left. Beware the Swale !!! .... it changes halfway !!! Blummin tidal anomalies. |
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Post by greenman on Mar 11, 2023 9:19:12 GMT
I can understand it on transit canals like the Forth & Clyde or Caledonian. Not sure about anywhere else.
Did once have a kayaker try to quote IRPCS to me (sadly for him he was wrong).
I would have thought as long as everybody understands what you mean it wouldn't be a problem.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2023 9:19:47 GMT
I've always been fascinated by these nautical terms, however when I first began canal boating I read and was told that they were never used on the canals. The towpath was the main frame of reference, so offside and nearside, or in and out were the usual identifiers. However I have noticed that the new vloggers all seem to routinely use port and starboard (along with duck hatch) which I guess is why their use seems to be increasing. Does anyone know ? Rog Outside of the RN and commercial shipping it's just a preference. In days gone I was keener on the boaty talk but left and right suffices for the most part. The terms port and starboard only really become more important when 'communicating' with other boats....or port authorities for the more adventurous. ETA In the world of inland waterways boating it's probably safer to assume that the other guy doesn't know his port from the other and thus left and right become more prescient. But if you happen to be shouting instructions to an oncoming boat... |
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Post by greenman on Mar 11, 2023 9:37:05 GMT
It's become common to refer to lateral marks as green and red rather than port or starboard.
Common practice to instruct boats to pass green to green or red to red.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2023 9:47:01 GMT
Not too many of them on't cut...
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Post by dogless on Mar 11, 2023 9:52:59 GMT
I've always been fascinated by these nautical terms, however when I first began canal boating I read and was told that they were never used on the canals. The towpath was the main frame of reference, so offside and nearside, or in and out were the usual identifiers. However I have noticed that the new vloggers all seem to routinely use port and starboard (along with duck hatch) which I guess is why their use seems to be increasing. Does anyone know ? Rog Outside of the RN and commercial shipping it's just a preference. In days gone I was keener on the boaty talk but left and right suffices for the most part. The terms port and starboard only really become more important when 'communicating' with other boats....or port authorities for the more adventurous. ETA In the world of inland waterways boating it's probably safer to assume that the other guy doesn't know his port from the other and thus left and right become more prescient. But if you happen to be shouting instructions to an oncoming boat... Good point. I find the same with horn signals on the canals ... many boaters use the horn rather like a car horn rather than with any intention to relay information. Rog |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2023 10:01:08 GMT
Outside of the RN and commercial shipping it's just a preference. In days gone I was keener on the boaty talk but left and right suffices for the most part. The terms port and starboard only really become more important when 'communicating' with other boats....or port authorities for the more adventurous. ETA In the world of inland waterways boating it's probably safer to assume that the other guy doesn't know his port from the other and thus left and right become more prescient. But if you happen to be shouting instructions to an oncoming boat... Good point. I find the same with horn signals on the canals ... many boaters use the horn rather like a car horn rather than with any intention to relay information. Rog Quite. I would guess most don't know that there are different meanings to different sound patterns. But again, on the canal the directions a boat can come at you and such, are mostly somewhat limited. |
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Post by dogless on Mar 11, 2023 10:10:03 GMT
Which is also why, on a 14ft wide canal, talk of port and starboard always seems slightly pretentious to me  I keep an aide memoire card with me when on rivers (which isn't often), but even checking that I find most horn signals I hear are really just folks beeping the horn to say either "I'm here" or more usually "Get out the way I'm coming". This is also why I rarely use the horn, but rather assume nobody will give way unless I do ... safer innit 😁 Rog |
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