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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2022 9:27:26 GMT
I was looking at reviews of the summer's Crick Show and was struck by a rather obvious point.
All the new boat builders (narrow and wide) were pushing the interiors of the boats , layout, design features, materials etc. ... selling a lifestyle no doubt.
With many the actual shell builder isn't mentioned without asking the question, and with square sterns being common, you have to wonder whether the actual 'boat' elements of the build have been forgotten.
I understand tastes change, but the old adage of 'get the shell right, everything else can be changed' seems to have been abandoned.
What do you think ?
Rog
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Post by GUMPY on Oct 4, 2022 9:36:21 GMT
It seems to me to have been that way for a while. Most new boats are just boxes with a pointy end, I suspect the era of a NB having a decent underwater profile is gone forever.
Personally I would want a decent underwater profile in preference to anything else, less wash, less power needed to push it through the water etc etc.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2022 19:51:10 GMT
I find some of these new ones more than a little strange. When they rush past in their shinery and finery with all their gear but no idea I often remember the old adage of "fur coat and no knickers"........  ...and tales from the surveyors and others just make you feel even more justified in your (blinkered?) belief! |
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Post by gazza on Oct 4, 2022 20:12:25 GMT
It seems to me to have been that way for a while. Most new boats are just boxes with a pointy end, I suspect the era of a NB having a decent underwater profile is gone forever. Personally I would want a decent underwater profile in preference to anything else, less wash, less power needed to push it through the water etc etc. A lack of skilled fabricators doesn’t help - we struggle for skilled staff who are capable of producing equipment much more challenging than a floating skip! Add the thorny issue of profit per kilo of steel and man hour of work and you end up with the shite currently being produced. Wind the clock back 50 years and a Hancock and Lane shell becomes a well designed VFM quality boat - hell, even old Sam Springer built boaty shaped boats to a budget compared to a lot of the crap available new now. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2022 21:00:16 GMT
Well it looks like dogless has gone from here too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2022 21:08:49 GMT
Some people are fortunate enough to have far more in their lives than to waste time on sad, insulting internet forums.
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Post by pattyann57 on Oct 5, 2022 6:41:34 GMT
Well it looks like dogless has gone from here too. Why? maybe a break away and he will return somewhere.. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2022 9:32:14 GMT
Well it looks like dogless has gone from here too. Why? maybe a break away and he will return somewhere.. He's deleted his account on here. |
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Post by JohnV on Oct 5, 2022 9:35:06 GMT
don't understand why he didn't talk to me first
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Post by peterboat on Oct 5, 2022 9:59:02 GMT
I am on the facebook widebeam forum and to me it looks like prices are rising as people move out of homes onto the water, they want the biggest space available shape is of no concern, which is why Colingwoods are everywhere
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2022 12:01:08 GMT
I am on the facebook widebeam forum and to me it looks like prices are rising as people move out of homes onto the water, they want the biggest space available shape is of no concern, which is why Colingwoods are everywhere Spot on I’d say. I think lots of people buy boats for the internal fit out and don’t care about the shape of the hull. As the majority of boats hardly move, does the hull shape matter anyway? |
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Post by JohnV on Oct 5, 2022 12:13:01 GMT
I am on the facebook widebeam forum and to me it looks like prices are rising as people move out of homes onto the water, they want the biggest space available shape is of no concern, which is why Colingwoods are everywhere Spot on I’d say. I think lots of people buy boats for the internal fit out and don’t care about the shape of the hull. As the majority of boats hardly move, does the hull shape matter anyway? "shape" of the hull ? I see a lot of buyers of ex commercial barges .... that don't seem to grasp that it has a hull some barely able understand that a 50 year old working barge is probably as thin as charity. They then spend a fortune on fitting out before drydock and surveying |
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Post by peterboat on Oct 5, 2022 12:30:38 GMT
Spot on I’d say. I think lots of people buy boats for the internal fit out and don’t care about the shape of the hull. As the majority of boats hardly move, does the hull shape matter anyway? "shape" of the hull ? I see a lot of buyers of ex commercial barges .... that don't seem to grasp that it has a hull some barely able understand that a 50 year old working barge is probably as thin as charity. They then spend a fortune on fitting out before drydock and surveying One of the owners was asking about blacking, I suggested glass blast and Zinga followed by 2 pack this was sides and bottom plate, I told them that it would last a long time and in the end save them time and money. Boaters were interested especially the Marina dwellers, who had no interest in moving their boat at all. the anodes I told them could be bolted on so no more dry docking for that either. In the end it doesnt matter to me whether they move or not, in fact better they dont as it leaves more places for me out and about |
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