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Post by JohnV on Feb 23, 2023 10:11:28 GMT
Government funding for electric infrastructure would have to be spent on that infrastructure, and would not therefore solve the problem in any way. Electric boating is a personal choice. Funding the maintenance of our waterways is something all boaters should be equally responsible for. Rog ETA having said that, it seems the fact is that licensing fees will increase by above inflation for the next 10 years You put the cost of the infrastructure as one of the points for losing the discount shirley if the government pays for infrastructure then that negates that argument |
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Post by dogless on Feb 23, 2023 10:57:26 GMT
WHEN government pays for infrastructure then you consider discounts seems the right way to me.
Rog
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Post by peterboat on Feb 23, 2023 14:40:53 GMT
Government funding for electric infrastructure would have to be spent on that infrastructure, and would not therefore solve the problem in any way. Electric boating is a personal choice. Funding the maintenance of our waterways is something all boaters should be equally responsible for. Rog ETA having said that, it seems the fact is that licensing fees will increase by above inflation for the next 10 years The choice to run on diesel is going to be taken away, currently its in the distance but I expect the government to bring it to 2030 same as vehicles, this is new boats i am on about. pollution created by boat is both air and water based so anything that cleans it up to preserve it for the future is good. As it goes this is the most divisive consultation I have ever seen clearly CRT have already decided the outcome and thats going to cost everybody a lot of money but some more than others. our moorings could easily lose 75% of its boats with a steep rise! This would mean the remaining boaters paying more much more how would you feel if your license trebled? Also mooring in our area have already gone up between 33% and 43% thats serious pain for people. I for one after doing the consultation have a made a decision after consulting John because I dont like the way things are going, I have also spoken to my MP and he is going to have a chat with the waterways minister.
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Post by dogless on Feb 23, 2023 15:54:36 GMT
I'm sure some will have to reconsider whether or not boating is affordable over the next ten years ... me included.
However we who boat for pleasure rather than as a home are the lucky ones.
Any licence increases will be avoidable by selling the boat. Those who live aboard do not have that option.
This is partly why I believe increases should be spread evenly amongst all licence holders rather than divisive targeting of one group for whatever reason.
But I guess decisions have already been made and consultation results will simply be used to defend any changes.
Rog
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Post by JohnV on Feb 23, 2023 17:54:54 GMT
.I removed myself from CRT waters many years back .... yes I occasionally spend time on their waters but as a visitor.
I have noticed for quite a long time a distinct change in the demographics of boat ownership, more on tidal and salty waters than canals.
It might be that it was just the areas and types of boats/owners I was associating with but ......
Although there are plenty of youngsters involved with dinghy sailing and schools for them abound, the transition from that form of rag and stick to cruiser sailing seems to be failing.
I know of a couple of sailing clubs that have large numbers of aging sailors who are being forced to give up due age/decreptitude and are being unable to sell their boats at anything more than bargain basement knockdown prices. There are quite a lot of lovely vessels going for peanuts.
I could be way off beam but I suspect that something like that is happening on the canals, older owners with the financial clout to survive in what is becoming an expensive environment and a much smaller number of young boaters who can afford it only by plunging in totally and making it their dwelling as well.
If prices increase to the point where it becomes more financially attractive to be in bricks and mortar .........
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2023 18:13:33 GMT
If prices increase to the point where it becomes more financially attractive to be in bricks and mortar ......... I suspect many will turn to 'van life'. |
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Post by chewy on Feb 25, 2023 23:36:46 GMT
Government funding for electric infrastructure would have to be spent on that infrastructure, and would not therefore solve the problem in any way. Electric boating is a personal choice. Funding the maintenance of our waterways is something all boaters should be equally responsible for. Rog ETA having said that, it seems the fact is that licensing fees will increase by above inflation for the next 10 years You put the cost of the infrastructure as one of the points for losing the discount shirley if the government pays for infrastructure then that negates that argument But even if gov pays for the infrastructure (i don’t see why thy would as cars is lots of chargers for lots of cars, but on canals it will be lots of chargers for very few boats) I doubt they will cover all the future maintenance and repairs required which won’t be cheap. Hence I am against the discount. |
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